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NEWSTIME With MadDScout and 1Bobby – Thursday, November, 10th, 2016

MadDScout says():We have several related articles tonight.

MadDScout says():But before we start does anyone have anything first?

1bobby says to ABNewsflash(): any questions we’ll try and answer, so ask away

ABNewsflash says():not as of yet

MadDScout says():Bobby do you have the first one?

1bobby says():More than half a million visitors to the Baghdad International Fair

By sd sd – November 10, 2016   Treasures Media / Baghdad   Ministry of Commerce announced on Thursday that more than half of citizens visited the wings of the International Fair during the first six days of the start of the 43rd session of the Baghdad International Fair.

According to a ministry statement, “Treasures of the Media” I got a copy of it today, “Baghdad International Fair this year saw a crowd turnout broad and recorded statistics carried out by the technical services in the Iraqi opposition company more than half a million people have visited the wings of countries and companies to contribute to the gallery of Baghdad.”

The statement stressed that “this number of visitors is an important milestone in the ministry’s ability to attract citizens to visit the Baghdad International Fair and see the offers from companies and countries.”

While noting that “the visitor numbers to events session 43 continues to increase, especially since this year’s show saw the artistic, cultural and racing bikes, cars and theater events for children,
which helped to be a carnival and an oasis for a break Baghdadi families who have found in it a place of comfort and safety.”

He pointed out that “the projected figures especially increasing daily in the times of the evening, which is experiencing a remarkable increase in the number of visitors, which was spotted by the difficult traffic and congestion as a result of defending citizens and Tsabgahm to visit the exhibition halls and the acquisition of materials that make up the priority needs of citizens as well as the cuts carried out by companies shame
Thanks to Howard Chorpash over on DU FB

MadDScout says():This was from one of our great posters on Facebook

MadDScout says():Wide ranging reports say this was a very productive Fair that they put on.

1bobby says():Lots of business was done at this 10 day fair.

ABNewsflash says():this is the last day right?

MadDScout says():Yes
Lot of good business accomplished

1bobby says():Pretty much opened Iraq to outside investment possibilities

MadDScout says():Personally I don’t spend a lot of time on Maliki, or being concerned about his activity. But I have seen more than a few who seem concerned about him getting his job back. I offer this report with desire to help clarify.

MadDScout says():Maliki: No , I got something in exchange for my return to my position as deputy infallible

08/11/2016 (0:01 pm) – The number of readings: 53 – Issue (3778)

BAGHDAD / long – Presse   The Office of the President of the coalition of state law, Nuri al-Maliki on Sunday that the recent retiree does not receive any salary or bonus from the presidency, attributing to accept al-Maliki to return to take over the vice-president duties to his desire to work with the president to activate the functions of the Presidency and support the legislative process and monitor the application of the Constitution and laws.

The document obtained by the (range), late last month, has revealed the speech part, the presidency to the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers, asking for the additional amount of 3.5 billion dinars to the general budget for 2017, the salaries and allowances of the Vice-Presidents of the Republic.

A statement from the Office of the president of a coalition of state law, Nuri al-Maliki, received a (long-Presse) a copy of it, if the latter wishes to “clarify some of the issues on the expenses of the Vice President of the Republic who have returned to their duties by judicial decision of the Federal Court offices,”

The statement added, “as it came to the President of the State of Law coalition, he is retired and receives a salary or bonus from the presidency, was devoted to him, not the former when he was in office, and now any allocations for the purchase of cars or furniture or monitor the amount of maintenance or opening offices new, nor expenses and travel allowances and an increase in protection. ”

He said Maliki’s office that “the president of a coalition of state law, confirms that his return and acceptance of the functions of the position of vice president and welcomed the decision was aimed at working with the President of the Republic in the activation of the functions of the presidency and files assigned to it under the Constitution, as well as his desire to work to support the legislative process and monitor the implementation of the Constitution and general and applicable laws. ”

He was president of a coalition of state law, according to the statement, he hoped to “cooperation between the President and the House of Representatives because perform service for the stability of the political process and support, strengthen and address violations if I got to achieve the service of the homeland and the citizen.”

The judiciary announced in (the tenth of October 2016), the Federal Court held unconstitutional the decision of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to abolish the posts of Vice President of the Republic,

and promised him contrary to the provisions of Article (69 / II) and (75 / II / III) of the Constitution, which provided for the presence of the Vice-President’s requirement of “public interest”, while shown that the verdict was “the agreement and is publicly Pat and I understand.”


MadDScout says():So he is retired as president from State of Law coalition with a pension, but was not getting a pension from his former job in office as (VP).

But with the fed courts decision has decided he will return to work with the president and to “support the legislative process and monitor the application of the Constitution and laws.”

MadDScout says():I know there are some who wonder, if this guys will ever get his “comeuppance”, but look here

1bobby says():MadScout does this still allow him immunity?

MadDScout says():A couple of reports going back to his regime and the waste and fraud of public monies.

MadDScout says ():Unless he is indicted on a felony
If he comes under investigation for crimes equal to a felony then immunity is suspended

My point here is he may be going to get his job back but it doesn’t make him anymore trouble than he was yesterday

As far as the reforms go

MadDScout says to 1bobby():There was even a report where State of Law talked about moving past the “Maliki Era” as far as being able to be more independent on issues brought before a vote

1bobby says to MadDScout():The National Alliance has stepped up and took over the big dog spot and has basically made Maliki open to any type of investigation process in the future

MadDScout says to 1bobby():That is true
ABNewsflash says():yeah they are now passing laws!

MadDScout says to 1bobby():Hakim has been an important influence on the blocs and as far as working for the good of Iraq

1bobby says to MadDScout():100%
ABNewsflash says():they just recently passed law of the crowd

MadDScout says to 1bobby():The National Alliance now can create it’s own quorum at will

SRW says to MadDScout():Why is the GOI waiting until the 26th to dicuss the Budget law?

MadDScout says():They appear to have taken a recess till then and in the meantime they are working on the details

MadDScout says():When it comes back it will be the 3rd read

SRW says to MadDScout():Thanks.

MadDScout says to SRW():Your welcome

suprkat53 says():The NA was at one time dead set against Jubouri. What changed their mind?

MadDScout says to suprkat53():Hakim?

MadDScout says to suprkat53():It was actually what is called the Reform front made up of many bloc members

1bobby says to suprkat53():Hakim has personally changed the face of the blocs since he took charge of the NA

MadDScout says to suprkat53():The reform fron has tried to become a bloc but Hakim put an end to that

suprkat53 says():Glad he’s there!

MadDScout says to suprkat53():Has this helped?
suprkat53 says():Yes, thanks!

MadDScout says():Anybody got any ??’s
coco1 says():Yes!

coco1 says():I just came in, just saw a comment that a budget will be read a third time? I thought anything that has to do with moving forward with reforms only has to be two time before passing.

MadDScout says to coco1():The 3rd read is the final read/vote

coco1 says():Ah. Got it. Thanks!
MadDScout says to coco1():You’re welcome

SRW says to MadDScout():Is the passing of the budget a must, to establish a change in the revalue?

ABNewsflash says to SRW():no
SRW says to ABNewsflash():Thanks.

ABNewsflash says to SRW():the budget can always be adjusted

adDScout says():After the budget comes out it can be adjusted
Whether before or after

coco1 says():I’ll catch up on the other news you brought in after its posted. Just curious, is there any movement on the financial laws we have been waiting for Parliament to pass?

MadDScout says():Yes all kinds have been passed

MadDScout says():The thing is they need to be implimented more evenly

MadDScout says():But I say that will come with the full reforms which we are still waiting on

coco1 says():Including the ones outlined by the IMF for the reforms, that let investment flow in and out?

1bobby says to coco1():The Investments Laws are being discussed in articles we have seen in the forum and Jobouri has said that those will be a priority. I’m looking forward to the Investment Law and PFM Law

coco1 says():Yes, those are the ones I’m wondering about. So sound like we are still waiting on them. Many thanks!!!!!

1bobby says to coco1():You betcha

SRW says to 1bobby():That was my next question, where is the GOI on the readings and vote for those two laws.. I can’t type tonight..

1bobby says to SRW():I think they will surprise us and all of a sudden pass these laws. Remember Amnesty? We woke up one morning and BAM, there it was. You can bet they are being discussed away from “article type confirmation”

1bobby says to SRW():was that good for you or do you have further?

MadDScout says to coco1():Your next

SRW says to 1bobby():It still has to be announced in the Gazette correct?

MadDScout says to coco1():All laws go to the Gazzette

MadDScout says to coco1():However they have working arangements

SRW says to MadDScout():Thanks you and Bobby..

1bobby says to SRW():They will work within the letter of the laws

1bobby says to coco1():Go ahead. Sorry for the delay

coco1 says():I’m beginning to think they are putting off voting on the budget to allow time to pass the rest of the outstanding financial laws and then they move forward with it all at once.

MadDScout says():You might have a point
But for our purpose we don’t have that in print

ABNewsflash says to coco1():my thoughts exactly

coco1 says():Correct. Not in print. But that was my first reaction when I saw they are delaying the final vote on the budget.     Glad I’m not the only one

suprkat53 says():Am I correct in this – if a law goes to 3rd reading and doesn’t pass, it stays in 3rd reading until it does pass? It doesn’s start over does it?

MadDScout says to coco1():There was some adjustments made for the IMF stipulations to the budget

pacella says():The Investment law, wasn;t that passed awhile ago and now it just needs too be amend it so it doesn;t need to be voted on

MadDScout says to coco1():To include taxes and wage adjustments

MadDScout says to coco1():Has this helped?

coco1 says():My questions were more about the investement law and the PFM law. But thanks for the others.

MadDScout says to suprkat53():No they wouldn’t start over with the reads but they may reintroduce the law in an altered form

MadDScout says to coco1():Ok yes we are watching for those.

suprkat53 says():Great, thanks!

MadDScout says to coco1():But sometimes if it is not something I run into daily It is hard to know some of the finer points like which read or how many they have left

MadDScout says to pacella():I think that sounds right
MadDScout says to pacella():That is some amendments they are working toward
pacella says()thank you

coco1 says to MadDScout():I agree! I look at some of what Parliament passes and its whaaaaat????

MadDScout says to coco1():Indeed they are moving with purpose

MadDScout says to coco1():Good to see

coco1 says to MadDScout():I completely agree!

SRW says to MadDScout():I thought the HCL law had been passed. My question is why is it such a big deal? Is that a part of the Kurd oil revenue arrangement? Or a stipulation of the IMF?

MadDScout says to SRW():HCL has not passed

What they have is a working oil and gas law

MadDScout says to SRW():The Kurds part is a stipulation

MadDScout says to SRW():Along with other reforms that we await

MadDScout says to SRW():Some of these reforms are in place in parts  and are waiting on further full implementation or a more even distribution of their rules

SRW says to MadDScout():Chinese jigsaw puzzle? ({)

MadDScout says to SRW():Complicated at best

1bobby says to SRW():Also recall that numbers as far as production was a big question on both parts. We saw today that the Kurds are finally starting to publish those numbers

MadDScout says to SRW():Lots of banking laws that are laws just waiting for full reforms

SRW says to MadDScout():Thanks

MadDScout says to SRW():Others having taxes in them and tarrifs

MadDScout says to 1bobby():Indeed transparency

MadDScout says to coco1():Did you have another??

coco1 says():I realize they have some sort of agreement in place for the HCL. But lately there is all this talk about census. Do you think they mean taking a census for sometime in 2017? Surely they cannot get that done by the end of this year for the 2017 budget.

MadDScout says to coco1():They may be thinking late 2017 but there is a lot of social upheaval
And displaced persons that would make a census hard to take in this state

coco1 says to MadDScout():That makes sense to me as well. Social upheaval, displaced moving back in and so on.

MadDScout says to coco1():I think they will be a year or more getting ready but like you say they have started now

MadDScout says to coco1():Does that help?
MadDScout says():Bobby do you have another one that ties into past Maliki gov corruption

coco1 says to MadDScout():Oh for sure. Nice to have someone to bounce these ideas off of. None of my dinar friends around here even read the news. So nice to be able to chat with you guys, you have nooooooooo idea!!!!

1bobby says():Yep. This may tie in the Maliki question a little better to help us in understanding

MadDScout says to coco1():You’re welcome

1bobby says():There are many financial excesses reveals Mazini in final accounts voted on it today.

2016/11/7 13:53  {Baghdad: Euphrates News}
National Alliance mp Mazen Al-Mazini, said Monday there are many financial excesses in the final accounts the House voted at the meeting.

Mazini said in a press conference held at the State House, your correspondent {Euphrates news} today, that “final accounts for years {2008-2009-2010-2011}

transferred from Government to Parliament includes a lot of financial abuses by the notes that you’ve installed the Office of financial supervision.”

And “these observations included non-settlement advance funding exceeded 124 trillion noted Accounting Department of the Ministry of finance as they have already lost or priorities which means loss of responsibility and coverage on the waste of public money”.

“We reject emphatically endorse those accounts where the settlement of financial irregularities and legal coverage of waste public money weathi havoc,

and encouraged to continue wasting public money and encouragement to continue with corrupt corruption”, noting that “the Parliament already voted on the final accounts for years {2005-2006} and no action was taken in the face of his palaces has been proven.”

“We have stopped close with all of the public money was wasted and we only offer the Presidential Commission of final accounts to authenticate again only after the performance of accounting and refer them to the competent courts, Parliament insisted on showing the final accounts to authenticate despite objections from a majority of Deputies on display, this is part of a political settlement.”

The House voted at its regular Monday, on the final accounts of the years {2008-2009-2010-2011}.

Read More : http://www.dinarupdates.com/showthread.php?43430-There-are-many-financial-excesses-reveals-Mazini-in-final-accounts-voted-on-it-today

1bobby says():The years 2008 thru 2011 will be important here

MadDScout says():More blatant corruption that Integrity wants to follow up on

1bobby says():And the reason they will not, or should not endorse those accounts

ABNewsflash says():remember this article fellows

ABNewsflash says():Parliamentary Integrity reveal the existence of significant financial irregularities in the final accounts for the years 2008 up to 2011

MadDScout says):They were trying to say it was a formality to pass it but those who are bothered by this say without accounting for the corruption this should not be passed

MadDScout says():PM who?

MadDScout says():LOL

SRW says to MadDScout():”We reject emphatically endorse those accounts where the settlement of financial irregularities and legal coverage of waste public money weathi havoc,

and encouraged to continue wasting public money and encouragement to continue with corrupt corruption”, noting that “the Parliament already voted on the final accounts
This sentence is a brain teaser. ({)

MadDScout says to SRW():They are saying that by passing this they are incouraging the corruption to continue

SRW says to MadDScout():Yes Sir..

MadDScout says to SRW():Thats why the desparity needs to be addressed before they just “sign off” on the accounts

1bobby says to SRW():What he’s saying is that Parliament screwed up in passing the earlier accounts and no one was held liable

MadDScout says to SRW(7:38 PM):
They shrugged it off as a procedural thing

MadDScout says to SRW():and just needed passing to move further on

1bobby says to SRW():Earlier accounts being 2005 and 2006

MadDScout says to SRW():sounds bas ackwards to me but what do I know

1bobby says to SRW():Does that help?

1bobby says to coco1():go ahead

SRW says to 1bobby():I need some of Bobby’s liquid courage.. I’m confused.. Don’t spill Bobby

coco1 says to MadDScout():Sounds to me like they know it will take years to get to the bottom of it all. So instead, write it off for now, and move forward since they have things in place to stop any furhter corruption.

MadDScout says():LOL

MadDScout says to coco1():Thats a good take but those who are pointing out this is not acceptable

1bobby says to coco1():I think what they want now is accountability into the loss of trillions of Dinar

coco1 says to MadDScout():Oh I can understand where they are coming from, for sure.

MadDScout says to coco1():Are saying this only helps to promote the same behavior

Also they want to know where the committee to follow up on the corruption is or even if they have been drawn together yet

MadDScout says to coco1():They ask “Where are they?”

MadDScout says to coco1():This is a bad pattern that needs addressing now
In front of IMF/WB/WTO/My mama
and everyone who is looking for better for Iraq

coco1 says to MadDScout():I see their point, but this could take years to get to the bottom of it. Do they need to get these accounting years resolved to move forward with economic reforms?

MadDScout says to coco1():This can not all be for nothing

They have to step up and pull their big boy pants on

1bobby says():They are moving with economic reforms on a daily basis. This will just hold someone responsible

SRW says to MadDScout():I would be more afraid of Mama.. She will spank the crud out of me..

MadDScout says to SRW():LOL

MadDScout says():Andrew do you have a report for us?

ABNewsflash says():Keywords: announcement of the classification of banks soon
November 9, 2016 | 15:57  Network Iraqi position

Governor of the Central Bank on the Keywords disclosed that the central bank will announce the names of the banks, according to the International Classification Using a global assessment companies working on the evaluation of these banks.

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